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And so what we're

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going to cover today
won't cover everything accessibility,

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but it will be a really good start
to get you going in the right direction.

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Now is as
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I want to give this little, 
encouragement to you when you're

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taking a course that's already built
and you're making it accessible.

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It is actually harder to do it that way.

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Then when you build it the first time,
and then you build it as accessible

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so as you're adding content just do what
you can to make things accessible.

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As we show you today
and other things that might be out there.

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So we are gonna ask my God
how to get started.

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I know Rob is on his way back

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to catch up with this,
so I'm going to share my screen.

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And let me move this out of the way.

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And I am definitely one
of those instructors who you know what?

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Just interrupt me.

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I'll try and keep an eye on everything
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but mostly I'm just going to focus on
what's in front of me here.

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So one of the things that we have
that is going to just really make

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your life and ours
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easier, is 
there is what's called a pop tech

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accessibility checker,
which is in the lower left hand corner.

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And if I look real quickly here, sorry,
I have one.

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Here it is.

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Pop this up right here.

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Put this over here some more prepared.

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Have like a cooking show,

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pre-cooked meal right there
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So that last I was saying, there is a poke

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tech accessibility checker,
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allows for your entire course
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Anything that is in the content
rich editor.

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Now, if you happen to be looking
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navigation bar, and this is not showing up
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all you need to do is come down to the
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After
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and then I just do a command or control
F for find and I type in pop.

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And then these little dots right here.

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The eight dots will let you move it

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from this bottom section which is hidden
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And then we'll pop it up here and I'll
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Once you've done that,
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And that will allow that pop
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Now I do want to let you know that
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and you view as student
that pop tech does not show up

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for students, it doesn't have the eyeball
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But I know that we get that question
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Will my students be seeing that?

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Can they check the course
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And no, they don't see it.
They can't check.

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So I'm going to go ahead and click on
Leave Student View right there.

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So then what we're going to do is take a

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look at the accessibility checker
and how it works.

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So I am going to come back down
to this pop tech, click on this.

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And then once I'm in the pop
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course has not been run before
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And so while we're here,
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is just click on this enable
and scan and pop it.

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What's happening is
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the pop tech is put name that way
because the last name of the guy's J.

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I think Scott Pope they're brothers.

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That's our last name is Pope.

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And so this is our Pope tech checker.

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Your course is being sent over
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next is that it will eventually work
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This depending on how big your course
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So I would say once you basically
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when you're ready to get to the stage,
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is click that enabled scan
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We're in queue position one.

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So in theory it shouldn't take that long.

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But again I'm not sure
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I haven't dove into it quite a bit.

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checking out all the zeros and ones
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So what I've done here
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I'm going to pull that pie
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So we can see that
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and let's just get you used to
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This course has been scanned.

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It was scanned yesterday,
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and you're not sure if it's ready,
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and it will let you know where you are
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This pop tech
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So we would see that nurses 163 right
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You would see that also right there.

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So this is the example dashboard
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dashboard that will give
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You can go into my dashboard,
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and alerts,
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So I my dashboard is going to look
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And if you need to get into, reports
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I can go into like my photo 150 course,
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and then I can choose
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And this is good for like
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from a course
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Or if you're an evaluator, you can also
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And then of course, you can always send to
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reoccurring report, feel free to go ahead
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reports would be noted down here,
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like I just want to constantly get updates
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I'm going to go back
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to point out while we're at this top bar
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I'm going to hold down the command
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So it will open up in a new tab.

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And this brings us to the Pope text blog,

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which gives you an incredible amount
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they their blogs are very interesting,
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is every month they will go
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So it might be alt tags for a month,
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it might be closed captioning
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And so they just really do a deep dive
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But know that this is available for you
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for, using the tool itself.

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Like if you are having challenges,
I have always found them to be responsive.

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I do hear directly
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It's pretty interesting
that you know, hear back from them.

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So this course has been reviewed.

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I see that it has seven critical errors
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red square box with a white
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And this triangle with the orange triangle
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And it lets me know that these are things
I need to lay eyes on.

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I have 609 things
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you know, and that's like, what I.

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that it is broken.

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And I've run into it enough that you need
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One of the beautiful things
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The whole class checker is that as
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done, these numbers will change, but
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I'm just going to go into the assignments
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or any assignment or quiz,
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checker right here, the little,
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If we click on that,
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this, we'd look at this
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quickly describe the image over the phone
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if you took the image out, it would change
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Then you can come and choose
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This tells screen readers to skip over it
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I'm going to click on apply.

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When you get everything correct,
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Now this is the canvas checker
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to the left of the cancel
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That's a pop tech accessibility guide.

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So I am working in the course.

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You may have seen these before,
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Underline and contrast.

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underline and contrast.

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Right here is notice
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See how it highlights in gray.

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That's telling me where I need to look.

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here, hyperlinks need to have underline
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They can be bold.

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Like see the text in red.

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That's not going to help somebody
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you could click on the remove underline
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I want to have that emphasis available.

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I can work my way down
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blogs, 20 points.

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You could come here and say
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A lot of people like to try and stylize
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So they'll be like, oh, you know,
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That's what I want it to look like.

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like instructions,
you can go to heading three.

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can come up
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I want them to be bold.

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I want my heading three to be, 12.

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And then I want it to be bold.

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You can decide what it is
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You can stylize your headings,
but this is still heading two.

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We can see that
that is available right there.

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This is still heading three.

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And this right here is a paragraph.

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that you have your headings
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to get down to the information they want,
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I just wanted to also point out
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for the very beginning of it, but where
when you have no headings structure,

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notice it has that little yellow caution
symbol on it.

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So you have no headings structure.

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That's kind of okay.

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If you have the wrong headings structure.

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That's really bad.

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Yeah.

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So no hiding structure.

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You're like it'd be better with one.

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But you know, having the headings
not in the right order

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is is actually worse than not having any,
any headings structure at all. Yes.

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You will get a page
and that will be a very, informational.

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They won't just give you a little, 
heading with a little exclamation point.

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It will actually be a red square
that says this is an error.

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And then it explains what it is.

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The what it is you need to do to fix it.

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If you have a if you have a document

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that is a very short page of information,
there's not a lot there.

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You're not going to have
a heading structure.

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It's just,

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you know, there's there's nothing
to really give a heading structure with.

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So again as we can see we've got this
little canvas accessibility man.

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And then we have the Pope tag.

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Once you get everything done
you can always click on re scan.

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Now I have zero errors, zero alerts.

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I can go ahead and click on save.

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And that takes care of that page.

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Now that's a page by page basis
if you're working and building.

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But if you're trying to check
your entire class for accessibility,

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then you definitely want to come back
and do this Pope Tech

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accessibility checker right here.

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I'm not going to re scan it.

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It should have fixed one of the errors.

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But I am going to go down this.

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And this is what's beautiful about
this is because again

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it scans the entire document.

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And I can take a look at this.

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Now very low contrast.

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If I click on these details right here,

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that will open up my pages
that have very low contrast.

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If I click on, well,
I'm not seeing what I want to see.

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If I click on this pencil right here,

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we can see that as we're
coming down the page, we have again

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some hey, you need to check out
your images of links.

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Do you have suspicious alternate text.

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But really we work our way down to this
red one right here.

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Text and very low contrast.

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And what it is is this red.

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When you highlight your text
and you chose this red

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on a white background in canvas,
it is not enough contrast

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and I have this happen
so many times in my own classes.

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There are very few colors here
on this little color picker

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that will actually work in canvas
on a white background

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to be a high enough contrast.

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So what you can do is you can highlight

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this text and notice over here in Pop Tag,
it allows me to come over

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and darken the text for text that is

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18 points or smaller,

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the contrast ratio needs to be 4.5 to 1.

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Any text that is 18,

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I'm sorry, 19 points or larger.

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I should say the contrast
ratio needs to be 3 to 1.

295
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Now how do we know that?

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Well, quite honestly,
we can just highlight the text.

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We'll get our little ratios in here.

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And then all we have to do is just dial
this in.

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You can see right here on the right hand
side as I make this darker.

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Eventually it goes to green.

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Plus it goes a higher than 4.5
18 point text by the way is

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or 19 point text.

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That's 18 point text.

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It's pretty big.

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So just remember 4.5 to 1 right.

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If you got 4.5 to 1 you're good.

307
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You're good with all that remember

308
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because it tells you on the side
that's that's the beauty of the tech tool

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that is that is one of the beauties
of the Pope tech tool.

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Any questions at this point for this tool?

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And I know

312
00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,440
I have heard from a lot of people
who who start using Pope Tech.

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They want to make all those, alerts the,
the yellow symbols go away as well.

314
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That'll drive you crazy.

315
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Just focus on the red squares.

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Those are the have to's.

317
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Those are the have to's.

318
00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:14,680
But definitely take a look at your
your alerts because we have suspicious

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alternative text.

320
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We take a pic a look at that.

321
00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,880
Which one is this? First one.

322
00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,680
And basically this was an image.

323
00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,680
Image pinning right.
That needs to be fixed.

324
00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,720
Pope tech can't tell it basically
because it has a scoping.

325
00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,400
That's why you're getting the alert.

326
00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,120
But that needs to be an alternative text.

327
00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:37,920
Or if this is just decorative, it's
not really adding to the content.

328
00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,960
Again all you do is mark it is decorative
and then click apply.

329
00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,320
Go to the next one which will be had
this little box around it.

330
00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,920
That one looks like
that could be decorative to apply.

331
00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,920
And you can see these points
just start to disappear.

332
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And work their way through.

333
00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,720
So once
you have I won't go into all of this,

334
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but once you have everything corrected,
make sure you hit the save button.

335
00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,040
Please make sure you don't want to.

336
00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,440
I don't know, I don't want to do it twice.

337
00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,840
And then you're going to come back
into your Pope

338
00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,840
Tech accessibility checker.

339
00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,880
And one of the things
that I personally like to do

340
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when I'm working on it is,
instead of keep jumping back and forth

341
00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,280
as I'm clicking on
these edit pics pencils,

342
00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,080
I hold down my command or control
key on my keyboard.

343
00:18:26,360 --> 00:18:29,960
I click on this
and it opens it up in a new tab.

344
00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,760
You can see this is where I'm at before.

345
00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:32,680
This is where I'm at.

346
00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,800
After I come in here,
I get very low contrast again.

347
00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,400
Oh, this is my page of errors.

348
00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,960
If anybody wants to play around
with the page of errors,

349
00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,960
but you can see like
this is a sample contrast ratio.

350
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If I change this so that it is darker.

351
00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:53,400
And let me just get it to a 4.5
ish right there.

352
00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,600
I personally don't really like that color,

353
00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:01,240
so I can always come in and choose a
different color if I want to,

354
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,800
and then go ahead

355
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and somewhere down there click apply
and we can change that color.

356
00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:13,640
As I was saying,
these colors that have the red, bar

357
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through them are non accessible colors.

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They don't have a high enough ratio
in with a white background.

359
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,160
So they should even this green
I would think that that green

360
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would have a high enough ratio.

361
00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,400
Not that green does not limit.

362
00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,600
So when you're talking about colors

363
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,600
it reminds me of,

364
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a student
I had many years ago that was colorblind.

365
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,360
And so those that contrast
fall into that category.

366
00:19:44,360 --> 00:19:49,520
Or is this, an element for screen
readers, the color contrast?

367
00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:54,280
It is for people that are low vision
or have color blindness.

368
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,920
Yes. Okay.

369
00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,280
And the other note on color
blindness is when you're choosing colors,

370
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what you don't want to do is have color
be the only meaning for something.

371
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:04,520
Right?

372
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,520
So if you say, in this paragraph,

373
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all of the, 
all the words that I highlighted

374
00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:14,680
green are,
are verbs or something like that, right.

375
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,000
Well,
someone who's colorblind can't tell them

376
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,040
they may not be able to tell difference
between, especially on the screen

377
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,040
between a dark green and a black pixel.

378
00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:26,600
So they'll all look black to that person.

379
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:27,320
Right?

380
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:32,520
So with, with color,
with with colorblindness specifically,

381
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it's making sure that there's,
something else besides just color,

382
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,800
like if it's bolded or italic and green
or whatever it is, it's those,

383
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those two things together

384
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that.

385
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,560
Yeah, that makes sense. Thinking,

386
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,440
I'm going at just a tiny bit

387
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,520
over my time, but I just want to point out
some things very quickly.

388
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,440
As far as accessibility goes.

389
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,280
We had, talked about, headers,

390
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,320
make sure that they're always
in the nesting order.

391
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,040
You can change the size of them.
That doesn't matter.

392
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,960
Alt tags are on images.

393
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,160
If you have an image,
you can click on Image Options right here.

394
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,040
And then go ahead and change it.

395
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,560
Alt tag you're looking at again.

396
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,680
Think Twitter style
120 characters or less.

397
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,160
Okay, I mean, you don't have to say it's
an image of screen

398
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,160
readers were already call out image of
and then you.

399
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,000
It will read out whatever it is
that you have as the alternate text.

400
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,800
Again, if it's decorative, just mark
it is decorative.

401
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:29,480
For example,

402
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,760
these would definitely
be considered decorative,

403
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,360
so I could just mark those as decorative.

404
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,000
When you

405
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use, using a screen reader, correct.

406
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,720
For grammar, capitalize
the first letter in the sentences

407
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:48,600
in whole sentences with a period
that will actually add a space or a pause

408
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,400
in the screen reader, so that that doesn't
all run into one long sentence

409
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,400
without any periods that go on forever
and nobody knows what's going on.

410
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,200
We already talked about color contrast.

411
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,160
There is a company called Web Aim
if you need to go out and check that.

412
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:08,200
But again, the, poke tag accessibility
checker will check everything

413
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,840
that's inside of this square
that is not linked out.

414
00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:16,320
So Pope tag,
while this is a link and opens

415
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,840
up, Pope Tech does not go to this website
and check to see if this is accessible.

416
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,520
It will just let you know over here
on the right hand page

417
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,120
that or the right hand panel
that you have something that links out

418
00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:31,120
and you need to make sure
that whatever you link out to

419
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is accessible
to all people with low vision,

420
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,160
hearing and pure performance,
or even motor functions.

421
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,760
Can it be, accessed both by just

422
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,080
the mouse or just the keyboard?

423
00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:48,560
You have to be able to get around in both.

424
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,800
Where I talked about the contrast ratios.

425
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,560
Hyperlinks, as we said before, should be
the only thing that is underlined.

426
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,960
Do not use a click here.

427
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,360
Instead,
you want to use a descriptive link

428
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,280
that explains what it is
you're linking to.

429
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,280
It's not it's really difficult to,
you know, here,

430
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,480
like this URL
being called out on a screen reader.

431
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,600
And the screen reader
will call this all out letter by letter,

432
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,200
if you can imagine what that's going
to sound like. Right.

433
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,200
So instead I'll say link two 
links should be descriptive.

434
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,400
And that's just links out to something
that is descriptive lists.

435
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,640
Make sure that you're not using,
you know,

436
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,680
little asterisks or anything like that.

437
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:31,760
Highlight your list.

438
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,120
Go here, click on bullets
and you'll be able to do that.

439
00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:38,840
Or if you need to number them,
number them.

440
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,560
But make sure that you're using this tool
right here because again, screen readers

441
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:43,680
will call that out.

442
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,600
And whenever you're using tables,
do not design with tables, which is

443
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:52,640
something I'm guilty of and am correcting,
which is not as easy as I want it to be.

444
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,080
But it's working out beautifully.

445
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,360
So don't we have an image here
and then a description below it?

446
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,480
Instead, figure out a better way

447
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,640
to present your images and tables
if you need to use tables,

448
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,240
because that is what how the information
needs to be presented.

449
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,680
Reach out to us at the FCC
and we'll help you

450
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,800
with header columns
and getting those correct for you.

451
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:13,560
Okay.

452
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,160
Thank you so much for
let me go over a little bit.

453
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:21,440
I'm going to hand this over to Rob
so he can do his next bit.

454
00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:24,560
I think we're jumping the

455
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,560
Karen actually for Raquel,

456
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,120
I'm not sure Karen is here.

457
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:32,360
Here?

458
00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:33,040
Yeah.

459
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:38,360
I can she was helping someone,
which is why we kind of like,

460
00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:41,360
we were trying to, help
some people in the lab.

461
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,400
I am fine doing mine.

462
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,360
If you want to track down Karen,
and we'll we'll do grackle afterwards.

463
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,720
Okay?

464
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,880
And actually,

465
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,720
to kind of jump on to what,

466
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,640
say was just talking about,
especially with,

467
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,800
AI tools and,

468
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,560
captioning of images.

469
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:16,280
I want to show you something
I just did 10s ago with an AI tool.

470
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,520
And,

471
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,520
we'll we'll have more conversation
about AI in general.

472
00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:26,120
But one of the things that you can do
really nicely

473
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:31,320
with, various AI tools, whether it's I'm
showing a, tool called Gemini,

474
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:33,720
which is Google's AI

475
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,720
chat, but you can also do this ChatGPT
or anything else.

476
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,640
What I did is actually give it an image
and give it a prompt.

477
00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:43,880
Please describe this image
to 120 characters or less,

478
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,680
which is what we want for the

479
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,400
the alt tags. Right.

480
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,000
And this is what it gave me.

481
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:55,280
So what's kind of nice about AI tools is
this is the kind of stuff that excels at.

482
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,640
So if you're trying to create a caption
for an image or a chart

483
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,480
or a graph or whatever it is,
and you don't know what to write

484
00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:05,880
in this particular tool,

485
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,720
which is Gemini down here at the bottom

486
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,640
in the in the prompt,
you can upload an image.

487
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,880
And this can be again a chart, a graph,
something from, from your textbook,

488
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:17,920
whatever it is.

489
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,160
And just give it the you can say
just please describe this image.

490
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,440
It'll give you a nice, long description
of it, especially if it's a chart.

491
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,000
Right.

492
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,760
If you want to make a graphical chart
more accessible

493
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,320
to someone, maybe they don't.

494
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,640
They're not getting the chart
or if it's just someone who has,

495
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,920
little to no vision,
you can create a text version of that.

496
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:46,040
But I just added this in 120 characters
or less just to fit into that alt tag,

497
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,520
but it's really super easy to, to do that.

498
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,440
Gemini itself

499
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,720
is, like I said, Google's chat bot.

500
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,560
So it's Gemini dot google.com.

501
00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:02,840
The problem with this particular tool

502
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,880
is was not problem with the tools, problem
with Spcc.

503
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:11,240
We have most AI tools
locked down from our pipeline accounts.

504
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,800
So even though pipeline is a Google
account, you can't use Gemini with it.

505
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:16,520
So if you're

506
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,880
interested in playing with this tool
and the next tool I'm going to show you,

507
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,640
it is you would have to use

508
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,640
your personal Gmail account to do it.

509
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,040
So since we're already in the thick of it,
I'm going to show you

510
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,360
this other tool, which I think you guys
might find very interesting.

511
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,480
As far as a teaching and study
assistant tool, and then we can talk

512
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,840
a little bit about,

513
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,840
plagiarism and other concerns
and things like that.

514
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,320
So what I have done in my class
this semester,

515
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,520
and I'm teaching
a, hybrid or a high flex class.

516
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,280
So I have like 30 students in class,
and I have like seven students online,

517
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,160
but most of my students
are international students.

518
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,160
So a little bit different
audience in the U.S is a marketing class.

519
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,000
But what I did is I'm taking every single.

520
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,920
Actually,
I want to share my screen really quick.

521
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,440
So forgive me for stopping,
sharing and resharing.

522
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,840
I want you to be able to hear the audio,
but I want to play for you.

523
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,200
Fair sound.

524
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,320
so this is the lecture

525
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,760
recorded in in class, but down here,
what I did is I took the, the chapter

526
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,720
in this case in chapter nine,
and I converted it into a podcast.

527
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,720
If you all are at watching
the news at all about AI,

528
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,080
you might have seen this
or seen various tools about this.

529
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,880
This is another Google Tools part of job.

530
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:39,920
It's called a notebook.

531
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,800
LM language model.

532
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,800
So notebook
LM and I'll show it to you in a second.

533
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,160
But what it does
is I feed it to the chapter, so I give it

534
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,000
the PDF of the entire chapter,
and then I click one button

535
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,160
and I say create a podcast,
and it gives me an audio file.

536
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,920
And what it does
is it creates an overview of the

537
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:07,320
chapter in audio format,
what it doesn't do.

538
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,400
And I copy this to my class,

539
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,600
is it it doesn't pick up
every single detail of the chapter.

540
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,120
It's like a conversational overview.

541
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,560
So especially for my marketing students
are using a logic terminology

542
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,640
that they don't know.
Put it things together.

543
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:21,560
They don't know either.

544
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,560
Inviting error
in putting in a new concepts,

545
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,800
of of tools
and things that they may not know either.

546
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,480
So what this

547
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,520
allows me to do is say, hey,
before you read the chapter,

548
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,600
listen to the podcast,
and then when they read the chapters,

549
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,120
they're going to absorb
more of the information

550
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,160
because they already know
what the concepts are about.

551
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,920
So it's kind of like a Cliff notes
version in the audio format.

552
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,200
So let me just play
a little bit of notes for you.

553
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:47,880
All right.

554
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,280
Diving into the stack of marketing goodies
you sent textbook excerpts.

555
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,280
Notes.

556
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,040
Looks like we're all about products
and services this time,

557
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,520
and how those work together
to make a customer experience.

558
00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,000
People want.

559
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,640
You hear that? Okay.
You're trying to build a brand, right?

560
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,160
Something with real staying power.
That's it.

561
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,720
It's really more than just what you offer.

562
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,800
It's the feeling you create

563
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,040
that whole journey from the moment
someone hears about your brand.

564
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,640
That's how you build loyalty.

565
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,120
So personally, this is a journey
and they can speed it up.

566
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,000
They can slow it down.

567
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,280
Added captions.

568
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,560
This is not my learning style.

569
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,960
I tried this for a couple chapters,
got some feedback for my students.

570
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,480
They absolutely loved it.

571
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,720
The two two way conversation
that's all one click.

572
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,760
So this cost me.

573
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,520
I did the entire book in
probably an hour and a half,

574
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,520
and most of that time was waiting for it
to finish uploading captioning,

575
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,240
which it's really no work on my end
other than setting it up.

576
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,240
And I've got it for future, 
future versions of it.

577
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:54,240
So the way that you do this is, again,
you go to notebook

578
00:30:54,480 --> 00:31:00,120
LM, dot google.com,
and I can put this in the chat here.

579
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,160
Am I still echoing.

580
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,840
Yeah. Yeah.

581
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,800
Oh, wow. So sorry I had to turn it off.

582
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,800
Let me try.

583
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,680
It started
it started when you shared the audio.

584
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,120
Let me try it out.

585
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,520
Is sharing us.

586
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,520
That's why I don't usually have it on.

587
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:30,840
Okay.

588
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,760
Is that better?

589
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:33,280
Cool.

590
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:38,040
Okay, so notebook lm dot google.com.

591
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,120
And what I would do,

592
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,160
I don't have one set up right away.

593
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,160
And it takes a little while to do this,
but I would create a new notebook.

594
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,480
And then you upload a PDF to it
and you click a single button.

595
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,640
So I'm going to show that to you
with, with this particular

596
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,200
actually I'll show you the other one.

597
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,840
So here's it always puts the last one
you worked on in front chapter 13.

598
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,680
I would, the first thing it's
going to ask me for is to add, a source.

599
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,120
So I would just drag up a PDF,
but I could also add multiple sources.

600
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,680
You can have up to 50 different pages
of documents up here.

601
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,520
You can add YouTube videos, websites.

602
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,600
So you could give it a chapter,
two YouTube videos, a website

603
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,720
and say, give me a synopsis of these,
all these things combined.

604
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,040
So it's not just what I'm doing, which
is here's a podcast just on the chapter.

605
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,680
You can do all kinds of fun stuff with it.

606
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,800
Then, down here in the

607
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:36,400
bottom, right hand corner,
click on this notebook, guide.

608
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,080
This would actually usually pop up
right away.

609
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,120
And instead of load right here
where my cursor is, it'll say,

610
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,480
do you want to make a conversation?

611
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,440
And you just hit create

612
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,440
and then that'll give you
that MP3 podcast,

613
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,200
depending on how much information
you give it,

614
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,200
depending which way the wind is blowing,
depending on the time of day,

615
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,640
this can take anywhere from ten minutes
to about a half an hour.

616
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,720
To create that podcast.

617
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,200
So again, it's like I just click it
and then once it's going,

618
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,840
you don't have to sit there
and wait for it.

619
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,120
So I'll go and do grading
and do whatever else

620
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,440
and then just let it finish
its audio file.

621
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,440
And then I can download it.

622
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,080
The other thing that notebook does
is these items over here.

623
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,640
So what I've done is I've also created

624
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,960
a study guide
so I don't have to do anything.

625
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,760
You just click on study guide
and it creates it.

626
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,680
And I want to show that to you
in a second.

627
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,760
But what it's done is it's created
this quote unquote study guide

628
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,320
based off the chapter of the book.

629
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,760
So what it does is it creates these short
answer questions.

630
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,960
It gives the answer key as well.

631
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,480
It creates essay questions,

632
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,760
but more importantly,
it gives me this glossary of terms.

633
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:54,640
So if I'm using an older book that doesn't
have a great glossary of terms in it,

634
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,720
so I could actually copy this out
and paste it into my class

635
00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:59,960
if I wanted to use it for that.

636
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,800
The other,

637
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:07,080
other cool tool inside of notebook
is the table of contents.

638
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,320
So if you wanted to give it 5
or 6 different documents,

639
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,520
you could have it create
a table of contents, which is basically

640
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,480
an outline
like a study guide outline, for,

641
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,760
a group of documents.

642
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,560
So let me show you, just a really quick
sample of how that works.

643
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,400
So I'll go back in the 19 where
I don't have that study guide created

644
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:30,640
a notebook guide.

645
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,520
And this works like ChatGPT.

646
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,400
This works like other
AI tools where I can ask it questions,

647
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,120
but instead of looking across the web,

648
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,120
it's only looking inside the documents
I gave it.

649
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:42,200
Right?

650
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,000
This is all completely free,
but you do have to sign in with a

651
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,000
with a personal Google account.

652
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,960
Students can do the exact same thing
so students

653
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,280
can just give it whatever documents
they want and do the same thing with it.

654
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,880
But I'm going to hit study guide

655
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,080
to show you how

656
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,080
kind of simple one click this tool works

657
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:02,680
and watch. It'll take like forever.

658
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,680
This usually goes about 30 or 40s maybe.

659
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,200
Questions while this is generating.

660
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,560
But you guys think about the podcast
idea.

661
00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:18,600
Maybe.

662
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,360
Maybe not.

663
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,160
I think some students might like it.

664
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,480
You know, I guess the conclusion would be

665
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,800
if it's leaving out
important information or.

666
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:30,360
Yeah.

667
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,280
And that's why I told my students like,
this is a good overview

668
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,200
before you read the chapter.

669
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,000
It's not a replacement
of reading the chapter

670
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,440
because you're not guaranteed that it's
hitting all the most important things.

671
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,680
Now, if you know what
the chapter is about,

672
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,000
one of the cool things that you can do
now is when you,

673
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,640
before you hit create,
there's now a customize button here,

674
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,760
and you can give it a, a prompt and say,

675
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,760
make sure you focus on A, B, and C,

676
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,520
make sure you don't leave out this or that
and it'll actually tailor it.

677
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,520
You can't change the voices,
which I also don't like,

678
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,560
but so every single podcast
sounds exactly the same.

679
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:13,040
But you can kind of like
give it some extra prompts

680
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,680
now that you couldn't do
this literally just happened last week.

681
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,760
So I don't have the option inside of
of this older prompt.

682
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,880
To do that.

683
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,040
But let's look at this
study guide that it created.

684
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,040
Again, it's the same thing.

685
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,720
It's the answer
keys. It's the essay questions.

686
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:30,400
If you're looking for a discussion
question,

687
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,400
this might be a good way
to make a good discussion question.

688
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,840
You could actually prompted
to create discussion questions.

689
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,200
But again, what I like is that it
kind of gives you a nice little,

690
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,960
glossary of terms at the end here
that I can, I can toss out to my students

691
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,080
who are new to this topic.

692
00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:48,520
And it's just super

693
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,800
simple, and they don't need to know
how to use chat tools.

694
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,840
I don't need to decide
what's the best prompt.

695
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,080
How should I be asking this?

696
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,080
Because it's just click, click
that's done.

697
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,080
I can do the FAQ the same way
and it'll just

698
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,080
generate this document for me.

699
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,920
So what I'm doing is I'm
using this as a tool

700
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,760
to create this for my students
and then giving them the end result.

701
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,360
Like, I could copy and paste this out

702
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,080
and put it into a, Google
doc or put it into a canvas page,

703
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,280
or like I'm doing where I'm, I'm embedding
the the audio file here

704
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,440
for students.

705
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,480
There are some things
we want to keep in mind

706
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,720
if we're asking students to use the tools.

707
00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:30,560
Right.

708
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,760
Let me go back a couple, pages.

709
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,080
So right now Google LM is free.

710
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:39,120
Guess what?

711
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,440
Two days
ago, they announced a pro version,

712
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,800
which means they're going to be adding
some stuff to it for a fee.

713
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,000
It also means six months from now that
the free version may not be free anymore.

714
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,160
So I always whenever I show an AI tool,

715
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,160
I also say it's free today.

716
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,880
What's nice about notebook LM
two is I've created all those audio files.

717
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,600
I already downloaded them all
so they don't live in Google.

718
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,080
So if they shut down the tool next week,
I've got everything I need out of it.

719
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,200
Don't rely on these AI tools.

720
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,000
Being around six months from now,

721
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,920
you just don't know
where these things are going.

722
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,080
So what are the actual monetary
costs involved and what's the time cost?

723
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,120
How much time are you spending

724
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,720
fighting with the tool to create something
that may or may not be used?

725
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:25,560
Right.

726
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,640
So before I generated
all all the chapters is the audio.

727
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,320
I wanted to make sure that my students
were actually going to kind of use it.

728
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,520
What am I gaining?

729
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:36,960
What am I giving up? Right.

730
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,960
So how much am I?

731
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,160
Am I creating a pathway for students
to just ignore the textbook?

732
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:43,120
Right.

733
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,200
So it's those kinds of things
we always want to ask when we're, we're

734
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,640
putting tools in, and then what's
the data that the cool tool is collecting.

735
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,160
Well, with, most of these tools,

736
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,640
they're collecting all kinds of data
and notebook LM,

737
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:01,880
it's pretty limited to whatever
your Google account has

738
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,760
and then whatever documents
you're feeding it. Right.

739
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,760
So yet be careful
about what documents you're feeding it.

740
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,800
What I'm not going to do is give it
my grade book and say like,

741
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,880
give me feedback on my grade book, rework
the grade book or whatever, because

742
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:20,960
I don't want to break those verbal rules
by giving another tool my actual grades.

743
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:22,040
Right.

744
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,040
What I'm doing is I'm taking

745
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,400
a free textbook and giving it a PDF
that already exists on the web.

746
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,040
No problem.

747
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,160
If I want to analyze the spcc like budget,

748
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,800
I can do that because that's already
public knowledge, right?

749
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,800
Be very careful
about what data you're giving these tools.

750
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,720
How do you access it?

751
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:43,720
Honestly, earlier this year

752
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,040
there was a lot of tools
that you could use that

753
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,200
without logging in, without giving them
any type of information.

754
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,760
And most of these tools
now require you to log in.

755
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,560
So the AI tool is going to be collecting
some kind of data from you.

756
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:02,040
And honestly, the first time I showed
my students the, the podcasting thing,

757
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,440
the first thing they asked me was show me
how to how you did that.

758
00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:08,000
They wanted to be able to create
it themselves.

759
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,000
I wasn't planning on giving it,
giving them that access,

760
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,240
but they really wanted to learn
how to do it.

761
00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:17,040
So if it's a tool that you're

762
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,320
using, be prepared for your students
to be really interested in it.

763
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,320
And do they have the same kind of access?

764
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,240
Right. Same rules apply.

765
00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:26,960
I always let my students know

766
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,120
before they dive into a tool
that we don't know how much of this data

767
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,360
they're cleaning gleaming off of us, and
what they're going to do with that data.

768
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:36,960
Most, most

769
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,960
tools are locked down
from pipeline by I.T.

770
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,800
So like in this case, for, for notebook,
we have to use, our Gmail,

771
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,960
our personalized Gmail accounts,

772
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,440
whenever you can,

773
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,080
if there's a certain other
AI tool that you want to use,

774
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,360
and I've got a couple other videos

775
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,360
that I can send you guys with tools
that we did from in-service,

776
00:40:56,720 --> 00:40:59,320
that are pretty fun.

777
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,320
What I do is
I sign up with my personal email address

778
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,360
or just send it with my pipeline
email address,

779
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,480
as opposed to logging in with Gmail.

780
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,600
So that way
it's not connecting to my account.

781
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,880
So if I have the option
of creating account with an email address

782
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,560
or connecting it to my Gmail account,
I'll always use an email address first

783
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,920
because that doesn't block it from the
the pipeline account either.

784
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,160
Don't share any student information.

785
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,400
I would be really hesitant.

786
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,640
There's there's a growing number of tools
out there that do do some kind of

787
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:32,360
automatic grading or will give you,
give you generalized feedback on a paper.

788
00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:36,240
I'm really, really wary about those tools.

789
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:41,120
And I know there's a lot of people
that are I'll give you one other insight.

790
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,320
I don't know the tool
off the top of my head.

791
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:47,960
But for writing, you get your students,
do essays and things, write papers. Yes.

792
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:49,120
Yeah.

793
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,080
So any AI tool

794
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:57,480
that they're using to create
content can be made

795
00:41:57,720 --> 00:42:03,120
with tools like stealth, Giphy,
GPT to bypass any AI detector.

796
00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:06,880
So there's
no AI detector on the market right now

797
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:12,120
that can 100% tell you
that a student is using an AI tool or not.

798
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,400
It just doesn't exist.

799
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,320
Turn it in.

800
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,320
Has a built in AI probability score.

801
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,440
It's it's wrong
as as often as it is. Right.

802
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,520
So the the rule of thumb is
if you're suspecting AI,

803
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,800
that to always have the conversation
with the student.

804
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,000
Right to add in on this. Yeah.

805
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,120
I just recently found out that chat
GPT zero, which is an AI detector,

806
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,680
somebody ran the Constitution,
United States Constitution on it.

807
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,320
It is 97% AI, by the way. Yeah.

808
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,560
According to the eight AI detector,

809
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,560
the Constitution was written by AI.

810
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,640
The other thing I want to point out,

811
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,760
I hate even saying this out loud,

812
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,200
is there are now tools, chrome

813
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,200
plug ins that can automatically fill in,

814
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,760
what's it called?

815
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,360
The the quiz questions
inside of a campus quiz.

816
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,200
I just saw your questions, Max.

817
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,080
Yeah.

818
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,760
Everything I showed you is available
on your personal account.

819
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:22,760
For.

820
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,440
And it's it's completely free.

821
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,000
High yield

822
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,800
study for a chapter in a book.

823
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,800
What do you mean by that, exactly?

824
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:38,640
Hi, Rob.

825
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,120
For example, like, if you,

826
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,640
let's say if you have a certain chapter
and you want to create, like,

827
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:49,800
a, like a summary for that chapter or,
you know, like, create highlights.

828
00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:50,520
Yeah.

829
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,840
Highlight the important key facts,
then what do you what do you say?

830
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:54,680
Yeah.

831
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,720
I would actually be very,
in very straight English.

832
00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:00,160
Just type it down here.

833
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,160
So once you give it the chapter
or any other documents you want,

834
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,040
just put in there like like the FAQ.

835
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,040
Q is pretty, pretty nice.

836
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:13,200
This is the, the FAQ for the chapter,
which I did just from the notebook.

837
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:14,240
Right.

838
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:17,040
I just did the FAQ.

839
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,080
So this gives me a nice little outline,
an overview of the chapter.

840
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,200
But you
can do exactly what you just said to me.

841
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,120
You can put in here

842
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,240
what are the main points of the chapter,
you know, give me give me an outline.

843
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,160
I've actually had to create
worksheets, out of this.

844
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,160
And you just type it down here.

845
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,840
Can you create a worksheet
based on the documents?

846
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,000
And it'll spit it out.

847
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,000
The best thing you can do is play with it,
see what it gives you back.

848
00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:44,000
Where it was.

849
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:44,560
Yeah.

850
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,520
Oh, so there are plugins for Chrome
now that will automatically fill

851
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,600
in the multiple choice
questions in a, in a quiz,

852
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,600
using AI.

853
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,760
So, that being said, the only thing

854
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,040
that you can really do to prevent
that is use a tool like respond is

855
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,240
even if you're not using the video
recording part where it just locks

856
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:10,920
them down so they're not actually in able
to use like Chrome to take the the quiz.

857
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,040
That's just the reality of where,

858
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,760
these AI tools are going.

859
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,080
What I've done over the years,
I think Linda, Lynnette

860
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,960
and I have had this conversation.

861
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,920
I think Linda has had
this conversation too.

862
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,280
Over the years, I've gone to where
most of my quizzes from a marketing

863
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,640
class are just reading quizzes,
and they're very low stakes.

864
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,640
They're very low percentage
of the of the class.

865
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:39,000
But the and I've gone to more projects,
less papers,

866
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:43,640
more projects, more creation,
more more creativity built into the class.

867
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,600
That doesn't work for everybody.

868
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,200
But it's something to really think about.

869
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,160
What are the types of assignments
that you're using?

870
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,760
And what are the stakes involved
with those particular assignments?

871
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,000
I know you guys are in a in a tight bind,

872
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,000
just like nursing in a couple
other departments where you're,

873
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:04,560
you know, preparing students to take
a, a state exam or something like that.

874
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,520
So it's, it is what it is.

875
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,240
The other thing I want to

876
00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:17,600
point out on the
the doom and gloom side is Gemini,

877
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:23,160
which is what I've been using, copilot,
which is Microsoft's,

878
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:27,320
AI tool, and Apple intelligence
are all being baked into every device.

879
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,800
Now, before the semester started,
I went to the Best

880
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,840
Buy to pick up something here
locally in Santa Barbara.

881
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,200
And they had giant signs outside
advertising back to school.

882
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,480
But this is the first year
I've seen it where

883
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,920
instead of advertising the new laptops
or the new iPhones, the new iPads,

884
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,560
they were strictly advertising
Microsoft Copilot.

885
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:51,640
It wasn't about the device, it was about
the AI tool to do your homework for you.

886
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,280
And that's the reality of the devices
that people are buying.

887
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,880
So you can't even say you can't use AI
tools because it's built into windows now.

888
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:03,200
It's built into their phones
now it's built into everything.

889
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,080
So just saying,

890
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,320
you know, you can't you can't use it
as isn't necessarily an answer.

891
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,920
I really encourage
you, if you haven't tried any AI tools

892
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:19,520
to try things like copilot,
there's another tool called perplexity,

893
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,160
which is going to some changes, honestly,
but perplexity.

894
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,880
I, this is a little bit more,

895
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,320
what's the,

896
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,920
academic focused
it gives you when you do,

897
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,960
prompt or search inside of here,
I'll just, see what it gives me.

898
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,040
I'm just clicking inside here.

899
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,400
I'll just let it run

900
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,680
whatever it wants to run,
because I want to just show you something

901
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,600
what perplexity does instead of
just giving you an answer to whatever,

902
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,120
prompt or something you put inside of it,

903
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,240
it actually gives you the sources
at the top first.

904
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,120
So it's kind of like the opposite of,

905
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,960
Wow, it's the encyclopedia software,

906
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,160
Wikipedia, website, Wikipedia.

907
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,000
Thank you. Wow.
Then we just went out by brain.

908
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,520
So Wikipedia gives you
the source is usually at the bottom.

909
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,000
Perplexity gives you
the source is right at the top.

910
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,680
This is where it's pulling these
this information from.

911
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,880
So what I've actually shown
students to do is

912
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,760
put in the question
that you're looking for that

913
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,600
you want to do research on, and don't
bother with the answer down here.

914
00:48:29,720 --> 00:48:32,760
Start looking at the sources,
do your research starting from here

915
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,720
and see you see what it's giving it.

916
00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:38,480
What what you can glean from
that as a place to start from

917
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,160
a lot of people are using perplexity.

918
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:45,520
And Gemini now is kind of like
a replacement for Google search

919
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,400
because Google search
is getting really heavy into AI ads

920
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,920
and a lot of the information it's giving
you at the top is actually incorrect.

921
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,320
So perplexity is a

922
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,320
little bit more narrow
in scope than Google is.

923
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,400
So it's, it's really giving you
some sources to start out with.

924
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,320
Yeah.

925
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,480
I, I'll leave it there for the most part,

926
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,480
but any any questions, concerns,

927
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,760
anything you want to chat
about specifically about AI

928
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,760
in general?

929
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,000
Okay.

930
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,000
I think the biggest thing is

931
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,040
AI, where especially where our industries
are going to definitely try

932
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,000
these tools out.

933
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:33,360
Yeah.

934
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,360
Go ahead. Alison.

935
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:37,520
This is very vague.

936
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,160
I'm just curious.
It's all a bit overwhelming.

937
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,920
What do you recommend to
instructors in regards to, like,

938
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,040
stay on top of this somehow outside
of, like, what you're doing right now

939
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,720
because it's even just reading, like,
upper dive papers at UCSB.

940
00:49:52,720 --> 00:49:54,000
Like at this point,

941
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,840
it's taking so much time to figure out,
like how what are they using?

942
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,400
Are they using something?

943
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,120
Well, but how do you even.

944
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,920
Yeah, I'm just really overwhelmed
by the whole thing.

945
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,120
I'm just curious what advice
you would give us in regards to

946
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,480
what's going to happen with all this,
or where do we go as instructors

947
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,200
to make sure we're still serving
our students to the best of our ability?

948
00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:17,320
I can say that, oh, go for it, Laurie.

949
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,400
So, I'm

950
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:26,920
not I haven't met all of you yet, but,
the more Vasquez

951
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,480
and I'm the assistive technology
specialists in DSPs.

952
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:35,280
And I've talked to some of you
over the period of time, but I'm also,

953
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,800
part of the chancellor's office cohort

954
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,040
that is working with AI in our system.

955
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,920
And basically what that means is that

956
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,360
because of the Chancellor's office

957
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:52,080
vision 2031 of the strategic,

958
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:55,640
direction is part of that planning
document

959
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,640
is artificial intelligence.

960
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,600
So the Chancellor's office
is furiously working

961
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:07,720
to develop resources
for faculty, staff, administration

962
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,480
to not only be aware of the tools
that are coming down the pike.

963
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,840
I mean, it's every day
I get masses of emails

964
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,080
about artificial intelligence tools
drawing this.

965
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:23,160
Here's a free training and,

966
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,960
very soon, if not immediately, you'll be,

967
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,880
you'll have access
to a lot of this information.

968
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,800
And a state academic senate is,
trying to ramp up and train

969
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,120
faculty
across the state as quickly as possible.

970
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,600
I attended a webinar today
where the Faculty Association

971
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,640
of California Community Colleges
is also working on creating policies,

972
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,040
for the community colleges,

973
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,280
especially around the use
of AI and academic integrity.

974
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,760
And, so there's a lot of

975
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,720
information that will be available to you
very shortly.

976
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:06,560
So, Rob is on ITC,
which is the Instructional Technology

977
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:11,240
Committee, which I chair as, 
one of the Senate subcommittees.

978
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:15,000
So we'll be making this, information
available to you

979
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,160
probably sooner than later,
but it's changing every day.

980
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:25,560
And just be aware that
that will be available to you before long.

981
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,880
The other thing
I want to say to as far as,

982
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,840
like what you can do now,
as far as you know, how how do you prevent

983
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:38,400
students from quote unquote using AI to,
to cheat on a paper or something else?

984
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,520
I think there's no way to block it
or prevent it.

985
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,720
I think the best thing you can do
is to really rethink your assignment,

986
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:50,280
rethink what you're expecting
from students and expect more, right?

987
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:55,320
What AI tools are really good
at is the first level of information.

988
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,080
I want to take a bunch of facts.

989
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,920
I want to restructure them into a paper

990
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,920
that's that's easy to do for the
these AI tools.

991
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,440
What it's hard to do
is to analyze and compare

992
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,720
and to be creative, even if it's if it's
a writing assignment, right,

993
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:14,480
to to pull from multiple specific sources,
it can't really do that.

994
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,520
So making sure that you're giving

995
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,520
really explicit instructions to students

996
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,400
and to have them create images,

997
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,480
AI is really bad
at creating two things at one time.

998
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,480
It can't create a paper
with with a graphic that goes with it.

999
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,880
It's it's completely different tasks.

1000
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,800
Asking students to compare and contrast

1001
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:40,560
and to, to analyze are things that the, 
the AI tools

1002
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,160
just aren't very good at doing,
at least in its current form.

1003
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,800
But I think the biggest thing is
to just keep expecting more from students,

1004
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,800
because you're not going to stop them
from using these tools.

1005
00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:54,120
So it's really
what what can what's the difference

1006
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,200
between these these low level
AI tools versus

1007
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,960
what we want students to do,
which is which is think right.

1008
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,200
So how do we get them to to show
that they're thinking

1009
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,320
beyond just regurgitating out information?

1010
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:08,120
And Sims?

1011
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,120
I've already seen at the time
it's close to, to four.

1012
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,760
So I'm thinking that we don't show grackle
and we can just we can send out a video

1013
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:15,560
for you guys on that.

1014
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:18,520
Is that helpful?

1015
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,000
Allison? Oh,
I want to put a link in the chat to you.

1016
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,440
This is a, newsletter.

1017
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,720
It's a daily newsletter called the neuron.

1018
00:54:25,720 --> 00:54:28,080
It goes to your email
if you want to sign up for it.

1019
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:29,960
Or you can just go to the website
occasionally.

1020
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,960
This is what we kind of keep an eye on.

1021
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:37,160
The somedays it's kind of pointless
to talking about stocks and other things.

1022
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,280
It doesn't matter.

1023
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,560
Other days
they're very focused on education.

1024
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,680
They're really focusing around the entire
gamut of where AI is going

1025
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,560
and what AI tools are coming out.

1026
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,080
What I tell AI tools are shutting down

1027
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,560
when AI tools are trying
to change and charge, and they're tracking

1028
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,080
the big ones are doing
a lot of analysis for us.

1029
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,760
So if this is something
you really want to stay up on top of,

1030
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,080
like where AI is going,
that's a great newsletter.

1031
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,560
If you just want to know,
like how to be a better teacher with AI,

1032
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,080
that's not necessarily
the best place to go.

1033
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,080
But if you're really interested in the
the background of stuff,

1034
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:13,040
we look at those things
all the time and try and disseminate

1035
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,160
that information to you.

1036
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,360
The other tool.

1037
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,360
Yeah. Alison.

1038
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:22,800
Oh, no, I just said thank you.

1039
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,960
Appreciate it. Yeah. You bet. Yeah.

1040
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,960
The other tool
that we were going to show you today,

1041
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,080
I think some of you have seen before,
and we can send you out a brief video on

1042
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:35,520
it is a tool called grackle
that the the school has a license for.

1043
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,560
And what it does is
it does an accessibility check

1044
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,800
very similar to what pop tech does

1045
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,000
for canvas grackle does for Google Docs.

1046
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,080
So you can run it on Google Docs,
you can run it on sheets

1047
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,720
and you can run it
on, the, the Google Slides,

1048
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,880
and it'll check it for accessibility
issues like the color contrast

1049
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,080
and all those and the tables
and all that stuff and help

1050
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,120
you fix
anything that are inside of a Google doc.

1051
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,800
It works very similarly.

1052
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,120
But we, I know we have a video
that's just on that.

1053
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:12,880
So, I will send that out to you guys
as a, as a follow up to this as well.

1054
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:16,840
Thanks, Rob.

1055
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,440
This was great. Yeah.

1056
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,440
I haven't heard
half the things you talked about.

1057
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:22,760
The, the AI umbrella.

1058
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,760
So that's interesting.

1059
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:29,120
You also can have students use AI, like,
make an assignment

1060
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,400
where they actually have to use it,
and then you're kind of, you know, it's

1061
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,640
playing into the idea
that they're going to use it anyway.

1062
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:36,800
Yeah, absolutely.

1063
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,400
And I'm a big fan of the evaluation.

1064
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,520
Yeah. Evaluate
what they're getting out of it.

1065
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:44,480
But and then there's
also the idea of equity too,

1066
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,760
because if the AI tools
get more sophisticated and it costs money,

1067
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:53,000
then our our students across the board
are going to be able to afford them.

1068
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:53,480
Right.

1069
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:57,600
So there's absolutely an equity
stuff, stealth GPT,

1070
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:03,000
which is the, the thing that makes it so
the detectors don't work that cost money.

1071
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,720
So the students with the most money
are going to be cost less.

1072
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,120
Right? Right.

1073
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:12,720
So how much we enforce the use of AI,
you know, do that with a grain of salt

1074
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:17,080
because it's the people who are just
kind of playing with it or trying it out.

1075
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,280
You know, they're they
they need to be understand why

1076
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,480
why what
why should they not use the AI tool.

1077
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:23,760
Right.

1078
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:28,720
So those conversations with students
is really powerful in the English space.

1079
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,640
A lot of faculty,
this is a statewide thing.

1080
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:37,360
A lot of faculty
are having students, right.

1081
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:39,960
Something on a topic

1082
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,640
and then have I do this the same prompt

1083
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,120
and then compare what they wrote
versus and talk about the differences

1084
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,560
where they're pulling from, experiences
and things like that.

1085
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,640
So yeah, having students
use the tools really powerful.

1086
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,280
That's I've actually incorporated
that at UCSB in

1087
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:03,560
we have active learning pod classrooms now
and that's what I was guided

1088
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,280
towards like start using it in class.

1089
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,640
So that's something that I started doing
and just did this last week is like,

1090
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:15,560
okay, look at you're pulling up a question
and wanting evidence based information.

1091
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,920
And we're recognizing
that a greater percentage

1092
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,280
of the sources that AI is listing
are not verifiable.

1093
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,640
And so that was something
we did this week.

1094
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,120
So it's yeah, it's it's fascinating.

1095
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,120
But I'm learning I'm
trying to stay ahead of them.

1096
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,000
You know it is. Yeah.
And that's where perplexity is nice.

1097
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,280
It's a lot of librarians like perplexity.

1098
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:34,280
Yeah it does.

1099
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,200
You have your your question at my,
my wife loves perplexity.

1100
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:37,760
I know a few.

1101
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,400
You know my wife Sheryl.
So she's a very going I love perplexity.

1102
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,040
Something else I wanted to say is that,

1103
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,000
in Senate last spring,

1104
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:54,920
Senate voted to have faculty create
an AI statement, and there's syllabi.

1105
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,680
So you want to make sure that your,

1106
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,600
department
does that so that it's something that

1107
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,640
in case there's a problem that comes up
and a student challenges

1108
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:11,200
you or they state that
you didn't have it in your,

1109
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,240
syllabus, you can point to
you have something to point to.

1110
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,360
So that's your first point of, protection

1111
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,360
and education for the student. Yep.

1112
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,160
Just go ahead and unmute.

1113
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,320
You have your hand up.

1114
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:29,040
Oh. Yeah.

1115
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,520
Anyways, it's Diane.

1116
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,360
I teach with Lynette in the HRT program.

1117
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,200
Your name was Disney, and I was like,
who is that?

1118
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:37,960
Oh, yeah. Anyways,

1119
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,200
So you muted yourself on accident?

1120
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,200
I think.

1121
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:47,720
Okay.

1122
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:49,440
Going to try it again

1123
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:53,000
anyway, I what I thought
was a very interesting perspective.

1124
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:57,120
On another speaker,
event that I had been on about,

1125
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,800
you know, AI and education and I

1126
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,800
to have added it to one of my classes
where, again, like you said,

1127
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,760
they have to come up with a topic and then
they have to ask AI about the topic and,

1128
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,120
and compare sort of their description
with what they came up with.

1129
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:13,560
But, but it was a perspective
I had not heard previously.

1130
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:19,920
Was that by not use,
allowing our students to get active with

1131
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,640
these tools
is setting up another layer of,

1132
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:29,200
you know, of challenges
to not only diversity, inclusion

1133
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,920
and equity because you're going to end up
having a population

1134
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,640
much like a population who can't read
if they don't know how to use these tools,

1135
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,920
and other people
are using them in business

1136
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,320
and in other areas,
but it's the responsibility of it.

1137
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,480
But I just thought that was an interesting
perspective, you know, that if we

1138
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,840
if we keep saying no, you can't use it
or there's too many risks in using it,

1139
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,400
then,
you know, as they get out into business

1140
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,840
and that other people may be moving
further forward faster

1141
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,760
just because they don't
have that skill set.

1142
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:01,520
Absolutely.

1143
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,520
And in marketing,
which is where I teach a lot,

1144
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:08,600
there is so many AI tools in marketing,
for better or for worse.

1145
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,680
So to understand how these tools work

1146
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,840
and how they function,
and to let them play with it

1147
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,320
and giving them a space to play with it
that's safe, is is really good.

1148
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:20,080
My bet is that on the medical coding side
and stuff, you're going to see

1149
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,960
a lot of more AI tools over that sooner
rather than later, right?

1150
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:28,280
So having having people have experience
with how these tools work

1151
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,680
as we automate more stuff, computers
still make mistakes.

1152
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,800
So you got to have human eyes on top of it
to make sure that you know

1153
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:36,920
what it's spitting out as. Correct.

1154
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:41,960
So I'm also putting a link in there
for the State Academic Senate

1155
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,920
newest
publication, Academic Integrity Policies

1156
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:51,680
in the Age of Artificial Intelligence
resource document came out spring 2024.

1157
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:53,640
So awesome use that also.

1158
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:57,080
But I also put a link in the chat
to our AI page.

1159
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,320
It's somewhat outdated because it's like
three months old at this point again,

1160
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:05,520
but on there is some syllabus statements, 
on top of a syllabus statement.

1161
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:09,120
I want to go as far especially I do this
in my in my marketing class,

1162
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:14,040
per assignment that I give them,
I tell them in the instructions

1163
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:18,000
for the assignment how much allotment for
AI they're allowed to use or not use.

1164
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:19,480
So if I'm having them

1165
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,920
come up with some fresh ideas,
I want them to not use AI at all.

1166
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:28,160
If we're generating package designs and,
you know,

1167
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,440
maybe they want to take their fresh idea
and run it through AI and see what

1168
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,440
they come up with on top of that,
as an idea generation tool,

1169
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,560
I give them instructions and how
I want them to use the AI tool to do that.

1170
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:39,960
Other tools that's like free rein.

1171
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:41,720
Go ahead and play
with whatever tool you want.

1172
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,040
And actually, students
have come up with some really fun tools

1173
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,240
and some really amazing artworks
based off of things.

1174
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:51,800
And, on the same time,
I don't require it of students.

1175
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:52,440
Right?

1176
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:57,000
So I give them choices of of how much,
whatever their skill level is and whatever

1177
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,120
they're, they're willing to do,
because not a lot of students do.

1178
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:01,560
They don't want to use these AI tools

1179
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,080
because they're afraid of
of their taking their information.

1180
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:05,920
So keep all of that in mind.